I believe I have some insights to offer

Dear liberal Twitter. I am a white male in a red rural area of a red southern state. I wear wrangler pants from Walmart to work, I drive a 4×4, I own a firearm. I am a fiscally conservative, socially liberal Democrat. But I look exactly like the magas, and work with my CONT..

Hands so I come into contact with them regularly. Daily even. I believe I have some insights to offer. 1)They are propagandized. Decades of faux and talk radio in combination with conservative social media have ingrained right wing talking points into even casual viewers. CONT.

It’s everywhere. On every TV at the doctors office. In every gym. On every radio. Everywhere. There are virtually no public or private areas that are not being inundated, outside of rare private homes. If a station besides faux is on at the doctor’s, the patients turn the CONT

Channel. 2)Even the folks that are starting to (only just now) realize that something is “wrong” about Individual-1 are actively shamed if they question his actions openly. The words “liberal” and “democrat” are said through clenched teeth here. Folks are afraid for CONT

Their social standing, friendships and jobs. So all that is openly spoken of him is good, and any bad is suppressed. This is exactly the type of environment that would make a reasonable person question their own judgment. And the negative incentive to avoid dissent is real CONT

3)The possible dem voters are pushed too far right culturally to vote progressive right now. I’m sorry. I don’t like it either and I wish it wasn’t so. But if everyone around you is claiming that the dems are out to destroy the country,,, it’s a goddamn stretch just to vote CONT

Blue. And if done, will mostly be done in secret to avoid ridicule. 4)It’s about race, replacement, and Obama, with a side order of Hillary hate for good measure. And they can’t get past it. These folks are so radicalized against Obama, he is literally seen as a usurper CONT

And foreign agent that took the presidency with the help of the deep state (Hillary) and tried to bring down democracy. Watch Tucker or Hannity, or Ingraham. You’ll get the idea. They fear brown people, and losing the control that they presently enjoy. They believe that CONT

They are fighting for their lives and country, and that if they lose, their grandchildren will grow up in a country with open criminality and Mexico style narco-wars. They also believe that illegal immigrants have been allowed to vote, and feel justified in voter CONT

Suppression as a result. Because they been sold the status of “victim” they feel justified in winning by any means necessary. See @Teri_Kanefield for excellent threads on hardball democracy if you’re interested in more on that. CONT

5) We want them. The folks that are coming around. We want them and we need them. If crossing over will result in more shame folks will stay where they are. We need em. We can teach them all about embracing progressive values after we get em… CONT

But right now, we need them to walk into a voting booth and put a mark next to a blue candidate while that’s still an option. Embrace that. Wars are won one battle at a time. We need to take any victory we can get. The bigger the better? Sure. But small ones too. CONT

6) Dems must embrace reality. I’m uninsured right now and it’s scary. I can’t afford the marketplace and I’m cash-n-carry at the doctors office. I want a progressive. Badly. But if a centrist gets the nomination I’m all in. This is about democracy. And keeping it. So. CONT

7) It’s probably best if we don’t get the nominee we’re all hoping for. Twitter is not our country, and we have to accept that. Not everyone has the same understandings we do and we all still need each other to stay intact as a democracy. Vote for the dem that can win… CONT

And encourage/help others to do the same. Don’t hit the folks crossing enemy lines with fire and brimstone. Help them ease over to the side of tolerance and acceptance. That’s our strength. We let people have different points of view and choose how to live without shame. CONT

That’s who we are. It’s literally the reason we’re different. Let’s keep it. It’s fucking awesome. Individual-1 doesn’t get to take that from us. Sorry for the typos and grammar. I have very little formal education. This concludes today’s public service announcement.

Ok! Getting some traction. Gotta do some good with that. Please help me! Follow @Teri_Kanefield right now. Read her thread on hardball democracy. She’s literally America’s Twitter mom. Do it. Follow @SethAbramson . He wrote the book on Trump Russian collusion. CONT

Then follow @DirkSchwenk and @HatesHorseshoes . They will teach you how propaganda is being used to divide us so we can’t function as a cohesive force.


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The second and third tweet are precisely what I try to say when people ask me the difference between the US and Canada (I’ve lived in both). The constant drone of propaganda is almost impossible to escape in the US. It soaks into every scenario. It’s pervasive and insidious.

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Yeah me too.
My time in Canada is probably the reason I’m not a Trumper.

I tell them all the time…

“I know everybody can go to the doctor damnit… I’ve seen it work.”

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Thank you for the thread, and it’s a pretty clear endorsement of Biden (not my candidate). Love what Bernie/Warren say, but it’s true that the Dems will alienate a lot of people if they go too far left. The NUMBER ONE THING is beating Trump in 2020 and nothing else right now.

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I honestly think he’s kind of a bonehead tbh.

I want Warren.

But wantin’ ain’t gettin’.

I will take his honest attempt over Individual-1’s games any day.

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Don’t you think perhaps Bernie can appeal to the working class? i know they fear “socialism” but they also know he’s right about wealth inequality & billionaires getting a free ride. Biden seems like the Dem they’d hate. Plus the whole Burisma shit always on Fox.

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The socialist thing is a deal breaker here.

But perhaps elsewhere.
Here they hate him.
Not as much as Hillary or AOC.
But close.

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Interesting. I know there were people who said they would’ve voted for Bernie over Trump in 2016 but chose Trump over Hillary. They basically wanted someone to shake up the system. I’d think those people might see Biden as same establishment Dem as Hillary & they’re not wrong.

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Not here in Alabama, though. They’d cast a libertarian/protest vote or suck it up & vote for Trump. That’s what they did last time. They would not have voted for Bernie here. Our blue areas were solidly Hillary with a few Bernies who went to Hillary. R’s just voted straight R.

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Agree. My advice, any time someone who voted for Trump or is a Repub sees he needs to be voted out&wants to do that or help us do it we shouldn’t criticize w useless What took you so long? No shaming.
➡️Say Welcome & Thank you!
I’m in MO &Voting for a Moderate.
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Good advice.

And I’ve got to make it clear.

I’m guilty.
I’ve been an ass.
I’ve treated them like they’re stupid. I’ve made disparaging remarks. I’m guilty AF on this.
I let the situation control me.

But from now on defectors get a cookie and a hug.

There’s no other way.

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This is great insight, I have a hard time figuring out exactly what Obama did to them. Enlighten me

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In our reality he was an exceptional president.

In faux reality he was a demon who wanted to destroy America.

They live in faux reality.

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That is the problem if you can’t see what Obama has done to you and our country, you have been watching to much MSM, they have been brainwashing us for decades. They know most Americans are to lazy to do the work to seek out the real facts. They tell us what they want us to believe. Truth is out there we just have to work hard to find it. We must stop the hate. Hate is only used to distract us from what is really going on, we all need to avoid hate, it will destroy only the one who uses it. It is impossible to think clearly when we are filled with rage and hate. There’s an app for that! However you won’t find it on your cell phone.

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Have you seen the documentary “The Brainwashing of My Dad”? It’s amazing. How Fox News and right-wing radio hijacks people’s minds because it is literally all they’re exposed to. No other information is available so they accept it as the truth.

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I can understand having difficulty voting Democrat, for all the reasons you’ve listed. But would they hold their nose & vote GOP just to vote? Or abstain/vote 3rd party?

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The loud ones are going to vote republican even if Vlad is the GOP nominee.

We want the others.
The women that are offended by the orange guy.

The quiet guy that voted Obama before but is afraid to admit it at work.

The ones not yet radicalized.
We should welcome them.

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The independents outnumber both Republicans and Democrats. The youth are likely independents. We need to work on that group. All genders, colors, religions, and ages. Present logic not aggression. Those entrenched in FOX entertainment are a lost cause unless their TV blows. Hm🤔

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If independents outnumber both parties as you have suggested we are in far more trouble then one can imagine. How one could be independent with the two sides being so far apart is beyond me. Sorta of reminds me of a man with on foot in a bucket of boiling water and the other foot in a bucket of ice, when ask how he feels he responds,”I don’t know the rectal thermometer says I am comfortable”. The road of indecision is littered with dead squirrels who couldn’t decide which way they wanted to go. I would much rather deal with a person I disagree with on most issues who stands firm and gives a reason for his thinking then one who can’t make up his mind.

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I’m also a fiscally conservative, socially liberal Democrat. My Republican friends have moved ultra right wing with this administration. Prior to Trump we could meet in the middle as moderates. Not anymore…they say I’m an ignorant!

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You might need to check on yourself, you may have wondered with your group so far to the left that you have become unrecognizable to your friends. Ir’s not that hard. First read the Constitution, (it probably was not taught in your school if you graduated in the last thirty years), then read the Democratic Platform, and the Republican platform (on line) and ask yourself which of these most represent my values and the values of the Constitution. One can’t ride the fence any longer. Not that we ever should have. The fence has changed to a ditch and the ditch has grown to a wide gulf which no one can straddle. There is right and there is wrong. There is black and white. Most of what we call gray comes from our mind when we thy to make right wrong and wrong right. When we try to mix black and white we may think we see gray. Avoid hate at all cost. We cannot think clearly or rationally when we are filled with hate and rage.

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I appreciate your candor.
I often wonder how and why certain people submit to bullies and bullying.

I’ve come to the conclusion that there are a lot of affected individuals in our midst. Some relate to bullying better than living up to expectation.
Thank you for your honesty.

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I appreciate your candor.
I often wonder how and why certain people submit to bullies and bullying.

I’ve come to the conclusion that there are a lot of affected individuals in our midst. Some relate to bullying better than living up to expectation.
Thank you for your honesty.

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Good thread. I’ve lived in the South (Alabama, North Florida) for about 20 years, so I know exactly what you’re talking about. But I’d like to ask you a question: When you say you’re “fiscally conservative, socially liberal,” what does it mean to be “fiscally conservative”?

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To me it’s a form of money management that reflects my values.
I handle my personal finances in a way you’d expect from a person or entity that expects to pay the bill when due.

It’s exactly the opposite of what Republicans do.
They spend, and leave the bill for the dems..