“I’ve never seen anything like this, someone calling the President from a mobile phone at a restaurant, and then having a conversation of this level of candor, colorful language. There’s just so much about the call that was so remarkable,” Holmes said https://t.co/fdopkzi8ol
“I think the Ukrainians gradually came to understand that they were being asked to do something in exchange for the meeting and the security assistance hold being lifted,” Holmes said.
Ukrainians considered Giuliani “an important conduit” to Trump. “The Ukrainians, conversations with the Ukrainians, viewed him as an important representative of American interests . They viewed him as a significant individual in terms of their relationship with the United States”
Russia could have been listening to Trump-Sondland call. Holmes notes that two of three, if not all three, telecom firms in Ukraine are “owned by Russian companies or have significant stakes in those. We generally assume that mobile communications in Ukraine are being monitored.”